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#153597 - 10/20/04 07:14 PM Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
Luis.Santos Offline
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As I mentioned, I'm just about to order a pair of EV SXA360s.

My question to the pros here is this:
I'm used to a pair of 15"s and I'm ok with it (except for the weight!!).

Would these EV SXA360 speakers handle 200 or more people without the (notorious) need of a subwoofer?

Thanks in advance.

Luis Santos

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#153598 - 10/20/04 07:20 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
GlennT Offline
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I auditioned the SxA360 and it is and excellent speaker. Of course it depends on the size of the room, but IMO, a pair should easily handle 200 people, with plenty to spare. They have excellent bottom and put out lots of volume.

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#153599 - 10/20/04 07:43 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
Fran Carango Offline
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I use to use a Yorkville KB300 stereo amp with a pair of 10's and horns..It easily handled jobs with up to 400 people..

I am sure the 12's will do your job, but if they are on poles , I think they would lack the quality of good bottom..
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#153600 - 10/20/04 08:06 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
Fran Carango Offline
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This set up always had quality good bottom!!
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#153601 - 10/20/04 08:20 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
GlennT Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
This set up always had quality good bottom!!


Boy, I betcha they did!

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#153602 - 10/20/04 08:44 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
Luis.Santos Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:

This set up always had quality good bottom!![/B]


With that setup, you always have good quality bottom! And no need for poles! I need a setup like yours! Where did you get it

Luis Santos

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#153603 - 10/21/04 04:55 AM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
kbrkr Offline
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Top end looks pretty good too....
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#153604 - 10/21/04 05:00 AM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
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I have a pair of Mackie 3000Ci 12" 2-ways and they sound great thru my Mackie 808s. They can handle 200 people easily,

But, they sound even better when I plug in my 12" EV SXb121a sub. It's about the same size and weight as the Mackies and just makes a world of difference I would not have imagined (because the Mackies sound so good by them selves.

Just something to keep in your back poscket for future reference.
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#153605 - 10/21/04 05:27 AM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
Dnj Offline
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Fran.....
I'll betcha that setup really Puts Out!

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#153606 - 10/21/04 08:31 AM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
Luis.Santos Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by cassp:
I have a pair of Mackie 3000Ci 12" 2-ways and they sound great thru my Mackie 808s. They can handle 200 people easily,

But, they sound even better when I plug in my 12" EV SXb121a sub. It's about the same size and weight as the Mackies and just makes a world of difference I would not have imagined (because the Mackies sound so good by them selves.

Just something to keep in your back poscket for future reference.



Cassp,

I cant find that EV SXb121a sub anywhere. Is it a discontinued product?


Luis Santos

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#153607 - 10/21/04 08:40 AM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
I use a pair of Carvin 12's most of the time for outside patio jobs of around 400 all the time. Often, I use 4 12's, but thats because I have people front, back and both sides of the bandstand.

The 12's have plenty of bottom. With two Yamaha 200 watt heads, there is more than enough volume, but that's because I'm playing dinner music.


Russ

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#153608 - 10/21/04 10:49 AM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
FAEbGBD Offline
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Loc: Nashvville TN
Enough volume doesn't always mean enough coverage. I think you should use a sub if you have 200 people or more, especially if it is a concert setting not a dinner music setting. A really loud smoke alarm is annoying, even if it is loud. Same goes with speakers that are loud enough but the full body of the sound isn't there.

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#153609 - 10/21/04 01:05 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
cassp Offline
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Loc: Motown
Quote:
Originally posted by Luis.Santos:

Cassp,

I cant find that EV SXb121a sub anywhere. Is it a discontinued product?


Luis Santos


I'm sorry Luis, I always screw up the number of that sub. It's actually Sb121a. I don't see the 'a' in the product lineup, but the Sb121 is there and the specs look the same.
http://www.electrovoice.com/Electrovoice/products.nsf/allpages/066D59279DD6D93886256B96005D4B0A
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#153610 - 10/21/04 01:26 PM Re: Would a pair of 12"s handle 200 people without a sub?
alfredo Offline
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Registered: 09/25/04
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Of course the EV Sxa360s can handle 200 people on their own. And if you ad a sub it will free up the SXa360s from having to handle the bass and then the SXa360s will be able to concentrate on delivering improved mids and highs.

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